Structure
Phrase + というところ(1) + だ
(1) といったところ、ってとこ
Détails
Niveau de langue
Standard
Kanji rare
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À propos de というところ
というところ is a grammar expression that is used when highlighting an approximate number or degree for something. It is a combination of the case-marking particle と, the う-Verb 言う 'to say', and the noun ところ 'place', which often marks situations. Common translations include 'I would say about (A)', 'I guess about (A)'. A more literal translation is 'To be at the point where saying (A) is accurate'.
It is most common for this structure to appear following either verbs or nouns, but may also occasionally follow adjectives. Coming primarily at the end of sentences, というところ will often be followed immediately by the auxiliary verb だ or です.
Occasionally, という will be replaced by the past-tense form, といった. However, the meaning does not change at all in these cases.
Caution
というところ has a tendency to be used when the number being given is the theoretical maximum for something, rather than the theoretical minimum. Due to this, it may sound unnatural when wanting to present an approximate minimum.
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失敗の原因は、過度な緊張と言うところでしょう。
I would say the reason for the failure was probably due to excessive nervousness.
ストレスによる暴飲暴食で体重が増加したと言うところだと思います。
I think that I would say that the reason for the weight increase was because of excessive eating and drinking due to stress.
はなこ:「オリビアの日本語のレベルはどうですか?」
かすみ:「せいぜい平均といったところでしょう。」
Hanako: 'How are Olivia's Japanese skills?'
Kasumi: 'I would say average at best.'
上司:「頼んでいた仕事はどこまでおわりましたか?」
部下:「70、80パーセントというところです。」
Boss: 'How far have you gotten on the job I asked you to do?'
Subordinate: 'I would say it is about 70-80% done.'
友達1:「スーパーまで行くのにどれくらいかかる?」
友達2:「たぶん20分といったところだろう。」
Friend1: 'How long will it take to get to the supermarket?'
Friend2: 'I would say about 20 minutes.'
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というところ – Discussion Grammaire
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casual
In the Caution section:
it may sound unnatural when wanting to present an approximate minimum.
買取となると、最低で5千円というところです。
If we were to buy this from you, I would say we would pay you at least 5 thousand yen.Is this sentence an example of unnatural usage? If so, should it have a clarification “unnatural” as always?
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