Structure
Verb + もの(1) + だ(2)
[い]Adjective + もの(1) + だ(2)
[な]Adjective + な + もの(1) + だ(2)
(1) もん
(2) ではない、じゃない
Détails
Niveau de langue
Standard
Kanji rare
物
À propos de ものだ
もの (or 物 in its kanji form) is classified as a 形式名詞 (dummy noun) in Japanese. This just means a noun that is used in a similar way to 'thing' in English. もの regularly refers to things that do not have their own name, or are difficult to name due to their complexity. When もの is combined with the auxiliary verb だ, it implies that the previously mentioned (A) is something that 'is what it is'. This is often used in relation to customs, conventions, common sense, or to highlight results that would naturally be expected in any given situation.
To use ものだ, attach it to the end of the attributive form of any word/word that ends a phrase that you would like to highlight as being an obvious piece of information.
ものだ as 'supposed to', or 'the way it is' can also be used to negate a phrase, and say that it is 'something that isn't expected', or 'shouldn't be the case'. To do this, だ will be replaced with ではない, or じゃない.
Caution
もの may sometimes be abbreviated as もん. This is far more common in spoken language, and can make the statement sound a bit more casual overall.
Antonymes
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ケーキは甘い物だ。
Cake is supposed to be sweet.
親は親切な物だ。
Parents are supposed to be kind.
食べ物はムダにする物じゃないよ!
You shouldn't waste food! (not supposed to)
悪いことは続く物だ。
Bad things usually continue. (That's just the way it is)
子供は父母の言うことを聞く物だ。
Children are supposed to listen to their parents!
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ものだ – Discussion Grammaire
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Ambo100
Charlesjh
WHat is the difference between this and はずだ
steffuld
Looks similar to how we add の/ん before だ to nominalize the whole phrase to give it the “It’s that …” explanatory meaning.
Here it looks like もの/もん is used in exactly the same way, but it also adds its own nuance. Interesting!
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