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[い]Adjective[い] + く + て
おもしろい + く + て
新しい + く + て
[な]Adjective + で
しずか + で
好き + で
Noun + で
先生 + で
仕事+ で
Exceptions:
いい→よくて
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「Adjective + て・Noun + で」の情報
The て form of an い-Adjective, or で form of a noun (or な-Adjective) is exactly the same as the て form of a verb, in that it carries the meaning of 'and', and is used for linking. It will allow us to list multiple qualities/traits of something.
For い-Adjectives, we will need to change the last い to く (the form used for conjugation), and then simply add て.
For nouns and な-Adjectives, we will need to add で to the base form (not な or だ).
It should be noted that て and で are different structures here. て is the same conjunction particle that is used with verbs (meaning that い-Adjectives are similar to verbs), while で is actually a form of だ that is used for conjugation. It is the same で as the one that is used in the formal version of だ, である. Which we will learn later.
Caution
Like other て forms (ている 1, ている 2, and ている 3), the て (or で) form of other words can have several possible meanings. These meanings are as follows.
Linking - Like 'and' in English.
Reasons - Like 'with (A)', or 'because of (A)' in English.
Manner - Like 'to do (B) in an (A) way' in English.
Caution
As with all other conjugations of いい, remember that it will be よくて, and not いくて.
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新しい → 新しくて
New → New and...
大きい → 大きくて
Big → Big and...
嫌い → 嫌いで
Dislike → Dislike and...
静か → 静かで
Quiet → Quiet and...
病気 → 病気で
Disease → Disease and...
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「Adjective + て・Noun + で」に関する文法ディスカッション
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Jake
[て-form]
and…
conjunctiveStructure
- い-Adj.[ て ] → おもしろ
い→ おもしろく て - な-Adj.[ で ] → しずか → しずか で
- Noun[ で ] → 先生 → 先生 で
- Exception: いい → よく て
[With its meaning being well approximated with the English “and,” the て-form’s basic function is to connect clauses, sentences, verbs, etc.]
[Depending on context (the relationship between connected clauses), the meaning can be further specified to express: a sequence of actions, a reason/cause, a means/manner of doing something, requests, and actions in parallel states]
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- い-Adj.[ て ] → おもしろ
GregX999
None of the examples are actual sentences. Do you just use this like “and” in english? Like…
魚で肉を食べる。(I eat fish and meat.)
or…
私の車は千咲で赤いです。(My car is small and red.)Pushindawood
@GregX999 Hey! This grammar point just covers the conjugations of the て-form with adjectives and nouns. Make sure to check out Adjective[て] + B in the following lesson and the grammar that appears in the Related Grammar section at the bottom of the Meaning page for example sentences.
You are correct that this grammar point is approximated with the English “and.” The て-form’s basic function is to connect clauses, sentences, verbs, etc. Depending on the context (the relationship between connected clauses), the meaning can be further specified to express: a sequence of actions, a reason/cause, a means/manner of doing something, requests, and actions in parallel states. Cheers!
Superpnut
Hey uhh, I don’t know if it is just me but the grammar point that is on bunpro right now is terrible. It’s just a mess of arrows and + signs and I really don’t have a clue what it is trying to say. The grammar point that pushindawood has up there makes a lot more sense then whatever is on the site. It seems like a pretty simple point but what does
"Structure
[い]Adjective[て] → [い]Adjective[
い]+ く + ておもしろい → おもしろい+ く + て → おもしろくて
[な]Adjective[て] → [な]Adjective + でしずか → しずか + で → しずかで
Noun[で] → Noun + で先生 → 先生 + で → 先生でExceptions: いい → よくて
"
I mean what is that? I don’t know how to read that at all please send help.EdBunpro
I assume you’ve read the structured legend yeah? Instead of just having the end-point conjugation it walks you through every step and what you’ll need to add in each said step. For i-adjective in particular it’s basically saying first you remove the い, then you add く, then you implement て (not で, for example).
I think you’re confused because there’s a spacing issue on the main grammar page. after く+て for i-adjectives, おもしろ xxxxxx should be on a new line in ( ) to show the example in work. A dev can jump in and answer better, but I think that seems to be the case. This is a common flow-chart for grammar points on the site (the arrows, etc.) but I don’t remember them looking like this. Perhaps something got a lil’ messed up when some formatting changes happened awhile ago? At least you understand the grammar point
Superpnut
I tried checking the legend but I was kind of frustrated at that point so it didn’t help. But ya I think I’m confused because of the spacing, I can’t tell where one step starts or ends. I just wanted to say something because if you don’t say anything they wont know that someone found it confusing.
mrnoone
@Superpnut
Thank you for the feedback!
I am extremely sorry for the problemsI have improved the readability:
Superpnut
Ya now even a dummy like me can understand it! Thanks for listening
mrnoone
We always listen to the feedback!chroipahtz
Why do we learn this point so much later than other points that use more specific examples of [adjective]くて? Doing my reviews for those earlier points has been so confusing because I can never remember why I’m adding these く (except for くない which I internalized quickly). I’m wondering if I missed something.
OldRosy
IcyIceBear
きらい is な adjective so it should be 嫌いで
It looks like an い adjective and there’s so way to tell it’s not in this case, it’s one you just have to remember. Don’t worry, it’s one of few
OldRosy
Thank you!
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