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N1 Lesson 3: 9/17

だのThings like, And so on, Or something, And whatnot

Structure

A(1) + だの + B(1) + だの
A(1) + だの + 何(なん)だの

(1) Noun、Quotation

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About だの

Although originally a combination of the auxiliary verb だ, and the case-marking particle の, だの is considered to be a standalone adverbial particle in modern Japanese that is used in the same way as structures like など and とか in presenting examples. Due to this, it will often be translated as 'and things like (A)', or '(A) and whatnot'.

だの will only be used when at least two examples are given, with each of those examples being followed by だの. Usually, these two things are either opposites of each other, or two things that share the same negative trait.

だの may appear after verbs, い-Adjectives, nouns, or quotations.

Caution

In situations where the words that だの is attached to are opposites, it will be exhibiting a large range to which the same rule applies. However when the words are similar, it is usually expressing things within that specific category as being undesirable. Because of this, regardless of what the words are, the overall statement itself aims to emphasize the speaker's feelings of frustration or boredom in relation to things that fall under that category, or that scope.

  • そんなに好(す)きだの嫌(きら)いだのと言(い)うんだったら明日(あした)から自分(じぶん)でご飯(はん)作(つく)りな。
    If you are going to say things like 'I like this', 'I don't like this', and things like that, why don't you start making your own food starting tomorrow? (Opposite ends of a spectrum)
  • あの新入社員(しんにゅうしゃいん)はつらいだの面倒(めんどう)だのの理由(りゆう)で会社(かいしゃ)を入社(にゅうしゃ)して二週間(にしゅうかん)でやめた。
    That newbie said things like 'this is too much', and 'this is a pain' and gave a reason similar to that and ended up quitting after 2 weeks of working with us. (Both negative)

Examples

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    ヒナは「臭(くさ)い」だの「まずい」だのと文句(もんく)ばかりを言(い)っている。

    Hina only complains that 'it smells' or 'it's awful' and so on.

    ラーメンやカレーが嫌(きら)いな人：「ラーメンだのカレーだのが好(す)きなやつは味(あじ)のわからんやつだよ。」

    A person that hates ramen and curry: 'People who like things like ramen, curry, and so on are people who don't understand what taste is.'

    妹(いもうと)にいつもこれが欲(ほ)しいだのそれが欲(ほ)しいだのとうるさくせがまれて困(こま)る。

    I'm annoyed because my persistent younger sister is always badgering me with things like 'I want this' or 'I want that' and so on.

    彼(かれ)はゲームに負(ま)けるといつも「回線(かいせん)が悪(わる)い」だの「敵(てき)がチート」だのと言(い)い訳(わけ)ばかり言(い)う。

    Every time he loses a game, he just gives excuses things like 'there's a bad connection' or 'the other players are cheating' and whatnot.

    娘(むすめ)はお腹(なか)が痛(いた)いだの頭(あたま)が痛(いた)いだのよく仮病(けびょう)を使(つか)うので、あまり信用(しんよう)出来(でき)ない。

    Since my daughter often feigns illness with a sore stomach or a headache or whatnot, I cannot really trust her.

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        What’s the difference between だの and やら? Do they have a similar negative nuance? In which cases can you only use one but not the other?

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