～て + くれないWon't you?, Will you?, Could you?, Can you?, Would you?

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  Pushindawood

  won’t you?
  will you?
  could you?
  can you?
  would you?

  Structure
  Verb[ て ] + くれない (か) ？
  Verb[ て ] + もらえない (か) ？

  Could you not
  Verb[ないで] + くれない (か) ?
  Verb[ないで] + もらえない (か) ?

  These expressions are used with a rising intonation

  [Arranged from least polite to the most polite: てくれ(rude male speech)→て→くれる→もらえる→くれない(か)→もらえない(か)]
  [differences are negligible between the last four]

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  Kuromaku

  So, there is no difference which one to use between the two? Purely from grammar point of view.

  Verb[ て ] + くれない (か) ？
  Verb[ て ] + もらえない (か) ？

  (politeness levels aside in this case)

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  DonChanHype

  This is covered in Genki II (in second edition at the very least) on Page 102 alongside てくれませんか and ていただけませんか? Could you add that reference to the reading list please?

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  mrnoone

  @Kuromaku
  Hey and sorry for extremely long answer time

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  DonChanHype

  Awesome! Should it also be in the Genki 2 grammar path now?

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  Pushindawood

  @DonChanHype Added! Cheers.

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  siditious

  The site is marking answers omitting the か as incorrect, which seems odd for short form with an explicit question mark.

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  dom1911

  Maybe I am missing some fundamental understanding of the て form and how it interacts with ないbut can somebody explain why this sentence 夜遅くに電話しないでくれない？ cannot be 夜遅くに電話しなくてくれない？

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  mrnoone

  We love you too

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  FredKore

  @mrnoone beat me to it!
  Well, that’s a much more complete explanation, so I’ll just offer a couple more sample sentences for comparison.

  These are polite commands:
  電話してください。-- Please make a call.
  電話しないでください。-- Please don’t make a call.

  These are conjugations:
  電話して出かけます。-- I’ll make a call and [then] I’ll go out.
  電話しなくて出かけます。-- I won’t make a call and [then] I’ll go out.

  And relevant links:
  Verb -［て］ | Japanese Grammar SRS
  てください | Japanese Grammar SRS
  

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  dom1911

  Thanks so much, love this community

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  Superpnut

  I’m wondering if someone can explain to me why this grammar point works.
  Because it’s based off of てくれる てくれない・てもらえない | Japanese Grammar SRS ,right?
  Which just kind of means to receive unless I’m mistaken.
  And ない just means pretty much no, once again unless I’m mistaken.
  So how does “Receive” + “no” = won’t you?

  Is there a reason why those two things together makes that?
  Am I just dumb for not seeing it?
  What is it?

  Also, the rising intonation part…that just means you raise your pitch at the end right?

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  winningtofu

  In a casual request can you not use とく？ Specifically, I’m doing reviews atm and it won’t accept 炊いといてくれない？ Am I misspelling something or is it too rude to use even in a casual setting?!

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  bilowik

  For applying this to negated verbs, why is it ないでくれ～ and not なくてくれ～? I’ve seen this ないで used over なくて in another grammar point but it was clear that it was more of a “with” nuance, but I haven’t been able to discern why this is the case here.

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  Fuga

  Hey @bilowik !

  The ないで used in ないでくれない and ないでもらえない is ないで that is used when making a request. なくて would not work here since it doesn’t have the nuance of request.

  I hope this clears it up!

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  allanw

  In the resources section for this grammar point, there’s a reference to Tobira on page 282. I had a look and couldn’t seem to find any matching grammar points on that page - can you confirm? Thanks!