Grammar Info

N2 Lesson 2: 10/24

の下(もと)でUnder, Under the supervision of, On the basis of

Structure

Noun + のもとで(1)

(1) もとに、もと

Details

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About の下で

When the noun 下(もと) 'underneath' is combined with either of the case marking particles で or に, it will indicate that something is happening either under the influence, guidance, or basis of (A). (A) will be a noun that is connected to 下(もと)で or に through the case-marking particle の.

In this grammar structure, (A) may mark either a specific person or some situation equally as naturally.

Occasionally, に or で will be able to be omitted in preference of a comma directly after 下(もと). This expression is considered quite formal, and the omission of the particle in favor of a comma will make it sound even more formal.

Fun-fact

の下(もと)で may be replaced with 下(か) attached directly to many different nouns, and still carry the same meaning. Examples of these are 統治下(とうちか) 'under the reign', 指揮下(しきか) 'under the direction', 影響下(えいきょうか) 'under the influence', 占領下(せんりょうか) 'under the occupation', 支配下(しはいか) 'under the control', and others.

Examples

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    ベジカと戦(たたか)うためにそんゴツウはカエ王様(おうさま)の下(もと)で修行(しゅぎょう)した。

    In order to battle with Vegika, Songotsu trained under King Kae.

    叔父(おじ)さんの下(もと)で働(はたら)いた３(さん)年間(ねんかん)は、僕(ぼく)にとって宝物(たからもの)です。

    The three years that I worked under my uncle were special to me.

    盤石(ばんじゃく)な地盤(じばん)の下(もと)での選挙(せんきょ)だが、余裕(よゆう)というわけではない。

    This is an election on the basis of solid foundations, but that does not mean that it will be a walk in the park. (under)

    優秀(ゆうしゅう)な講師(こうし)の下(もと)で実験(じっけん)をしていたから、いろいろなスキルが身(み)につきました。

    The experiments I performed under an excellent lecturer allowed me to master a number of skills.

    高(たか)い基準(きじゅん)の下(もと)で訓練(くんれん)を受(う)けたから、その後(ご)の仕事(しごと)が楽(らく)にこなせる。

    Because you trained under (while being held to) high standards, the rest of the work you do will be a breeze.

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      の下で – Grammar Discussion

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      • casual

        casual

        Why is のもとに not accepted in this example?

        このエンジンは８０度以下という温度の条件 の下で 少なくとも５万時間は継続的に稼働できる。

        Bunpro article doesn’t list any differences between に and で, implying they are interchangeable.

        Online sources list のもとに as:
        〜を条件として
        〜の状況で
        〜という名目で

        and のもとで as people influence:
        〜の影響があるところで〜する
        〜の下（した）で〜する

        Going off this, I’d expect either both to be accepted, or at least に to be accepted.

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