Structure
Noun (A) + は + Noun (B) + と + Verb
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Part of Speech
Particle
Word Type
Case Marking Particle
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About と
In our second lesson about と, we will look at the common translation of 'with' that is associated with this particle. と shows that there is a relationship between (A) and (B), regardless of if that relationship is translated as 'and', or 'with'.
In either case, the nouns that are marked with と are usually all performing some mutual action (that mutual action may simply be existing).
When と is used as 'with', it means that both/all people or objects are equally involved in the action. However, に highlights that one person is the target (destination) of an action, so will result in something sounding a lot more one sided.
Here we can see that both people are talking when と is used. It is a mutual conversation. When に is used, however, the person marked by に is being talked 'to', and is usually not actively participating in the conversation.
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トムと話す。
I talk with Tom.
僕は友達とごはんを食べる。
I will eat food with my friend.
ゆうこさんはみおさんとコーヒーを飲む。
Yuko-san drinks coffee with Mio-san.
タキはミツハと走る。
Taki runs with Mitsuha.
たなかさんはやまださんと話す。
Tanaka-san talks with Yamada-san.
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と – Grammar Discussion
Most Recent Replies (8 in total)
thebeesmeow
That makes sense. Thanks for the response and clarification!
Crossbot
Question about example sentence: コーヒーを妻と飲む。
Here “wife” is after the particle wo. I was confused by this as when とwas covered in Duolingo (I’m aware perhaps not the best) I walked away with the understanding that a sentence like this would have appeared as 妻とコーヒーをのむ. Is it then possible to place the person with whom you are doing the object to the “right” of the object marking particle? An example sentence written both ways could be
友達とじゅうどうをします or じゅうどうを友達とします
Would love some clarification thanks y’all!
Daru
The key here is to see each part of the sentence as a component of it, with their order switched around.
[コーヒーを][妻と飲む]
I think a good way to think about this is that the particle next to the word establishes that word’s role in the sentence, and not quite the order in which the words appear.
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