Grammar Info

N5 Lesson 10: 3/12

~て (Adjectives and Nouns)And... (Conjunctive)

Structure

[い]Adjective[ + +
おもしろ + +
(あたら) + +

[な]Adjective +
しずか +
()き +

Noun +
先生(せんせい) +
仕事(しごと)+

Exceptions:
いいよく

Details

  • Part of Speech

    Adjective + Conjunctions

  • Word Type

    Particle / Auxiliary Verb

  • Register

    Standard

About Adjective + て・Noun + で

The form of an い-Adjective, or form of a noun (or な-Adjective) is exactly the same as the form of a verb, in that it carries the meaning of 'and', and is used for linking. It will allow us to list multiple qualities/traits of something.

For い-Adjectives, we will need to change the last い to く (the form used for conjugation), and then simply add .

For nouns and な-Adjectives, we will need to add to the base form (not or ).

It should be noted that and are different structures here. is the same conjunction particle that is used with verbs (meaning that い-Adjectives are similar to verbs), while is actually a form of that is used for conjugation. It is the same as the one that is used in the formal version of , である. Which we will learn later.

Caution

Like other forms (ている 1, ている 2, and ている 3), the (or ) form of other words can have several possible meanings. These meanings are as follows.

Linking - Like 'and' in English.

Reasons - Like 'with (A)', or 'because of (A)' in English.

Manner - Like 'to do (B) in an (A) way' in English.

Caution

As with all other conjugations of いい, remember that it will be よくて, and not いくて.

Examples

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    (あたら)(あたら)しくて

    New → New and...

    (おお)(おお)きくて

    Big → Big and...

    (きら)(きら)いで

    Dislike → Dislike and...

    (しず)か → (しず)かで

    Quiet → Quiet and...

    病気(びょうき)病気(びょうき)

    Disease → Disease and...

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Adjective + て・Noun + で – Grammar Discussion

Most Recent Replies (12 in total)

  • Jake

    Jake

    [て-form]
    and…
    conjunctive

    Structure

    • い-Adj.[ ] → おもしろ → おもしろく
    • な-Adj.[ ] → しずか → しずか
    • Noun[ ] → 先生 → 先生
    • Exception: いい → よく

    [With its meaning being well approximated with the English “and,” the て-form’s basic function is to connect clauses, sentences, verbs, etc.]

    [Depending on context (the relationship between connected clauses), the meaning can be further specified to express: a sequence of actions, a reason/cause, a means/manner of doing something, requests, and actions in parallel states]

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  • GregX999

    GregX999

    None of the examples are actual sentences. Do you just use this like “and” in english? Like…
    魚で肉を食べる。(I eat fish and meat.)
    or…
    私の車は千咲で赤いです。(My car is small and red.)

  • Pushindawood

    Pushindawood

    @GregX999 Hey! This grammar point just covers the conjugations of the て-form with adjectives and nouns. Make sure to check out Adjective[て] + B in the following lesson and the grammar that appears in the Related Grammar section at the bottom of the Meaning page for example sentences.

    You are correct that this grammar point is approximated with the English “and.” The て-form’s basic function is to connect clauses, sentences, verbs, etc. Depending on the context (the relationship between connected clauses), the meaning can be further specified to express: a sequence of actions, a reason/cause, a means/manner of doing something, requests, and actions in parallel states. Cheers!

  • Superpnut

    Superpnut

    Hey uhh, I don’t know if it is just me but the grammar point that is on bunpro right now is terrible. It’s just a mess of arrows and + signs and I really don’t have a clue what it is trying to say. The grammar point that pushindawood has up there makes a lot more sense then whatever is on the site. It seems like a pretty simple point but what does
    "

    Structure

    [い]Adjective[て] → [い]Adjective[]+ く + おもしろい → おもしろ + く + → おもしろくて
    [な]Adjective[て] → [な]Adjective + しずか → しずか + → しずか
    Noun[で] → Noun + 先生 → 先生 + → 先生

    Exceptions: いい → よくて
    "
    I mean what is that? I don’t know how to read that at all please send help.

  • EdBunpro

    EdBunpro

    I assume you’ve read the structured legend yeah? Instead of just having the end-point conjugation it walks you through every step and what you’ll need to add in each said step. For i-adjective in particular it’s basically saying first you remove the い, then you add く, then you implement て (not で, for example).

    I think you’re confused because there’s a spacing issue on the main grammar page. after く+て for i-adjectives, おもしろ xxxxxx should be on a new line in ( ) to show the example in work. A dev can jump in and answer better, but I think that seems to be the case. This is a common flow-chart for grammar points on the site (the arrows, etc.) but I don’t remember them looking like this. Perhaps something got a lil’ messed up when some formatting changes happened awhile ago? At least you understand the grammar point

  • Superpnut

    Superpnut

    I tried checking the legend but I was kind of frustrated at that point so it didn’t help. But ya I think I’m confused because of the spacing, I can’t tell where one step starts or ends. I just wanted to say something because if you don’t say anything they wont know that someone found it confusing.

  • mrnoone

    mrnoone

    @Superpnut
    Thank you for the feedback!
    I am extremely sorry for the problems

    I have improved the readability:

  • Superpnut

    Superpnut

    Ya now even a dummy like me can understand it! Thanks for listening

  • mrnoone

    mrnoone


    We always listen to the feedback!

  • chroipahtz

    chroipahtz

    Why do we learn this point so much later than other points that use more specific examples of [adjective]くて? Doing my reviews for those earlier points has been so confusing because I can never remember why I’m adding these く (except for くない which I internalized quickly). I’m wondering if I missed something.

  • OldRosy

    OldRosy

  • IcyIceBear

    IcyIceBear

    きらい is な adjective so it should be 嫌いで

    It looks like an い adjective and there’s so way to tell it’s not in this case, it’s one you just have to remember. Don’t worry, it’s one of few

  • OldRosy

    OldRosy

    Thank you!

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