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N3 Lesson 2: 1/22

(Particle) + のCombined particles

Structure

Noun + Particle(1) + の + Noun

(1) から、と、へ、で、まで

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About Particle + の

In Japanese, many particles are often grouped together with the case marking particle の. The primary function of this is to form a link between noun (A), and noun (B). In each of these cases, noun (B) will be considered to have all of the qualities described by noun (A), and the first particle that follows it.

The particle that comes before の will always be something that adds some form of immediate information about noun (A). The most common ones are as follows:

    Noun (A) から の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'from' (A).

Noun (A) と の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'grouped with' (A).

Noun (A) へ の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'toward' (A).

Noun (A) で の Noun (B) - The (B) that 'done with' (A).

Noun (A) まで の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'until' (A).

Caution

Because noun (A) is describing noun (B), noun (B) will be considered as the subject of the statement. Due to this, particles that usually mark subjects, topics, or objects of actions cannot be paired directly with の. This includes に, も, は, が, and を.

Examples

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    あちゃんとの握手会(あくしゅかい)に行(い)こう！

    Let's go to the handshake event with A-chan!

    これまでの話(はなし)はなかなかおもしろい。

    The story so far is interesting.

    彼(かれ)は癌(がん)との戦(たたか)いに勝(か)ったそうだ。

    I heard that he won the battle with cancer.

    なぎさんは、はやてさんへの手紙(てがみ)をずっと書(か)いている。

    Nagi constantly writes letters to Hayate.

    サマーキャンプでの生活(せいかつ)はとても楽(たの)しいですよ！

    Life at summer camp is very fun.

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Particle + の – Grammar Discussion

Most Recent Replies (9 in total)

  • nekoyama

    nekoyama

    It’s because this is the grammar point for particle + の

    In this sentence, the の makes the はやてさんへ modify the お世辞, so they become “compliments to Hayate”. And those are what Nagi is saying all the time. The English translation is structured differently, it looks like the “to Hayate” belongs ot the verb. A more literal translation (but worse English) could be “Nagi is always saying compliments that are addressed to Hayate”.

  • yufen

    yufen

    Hi, I’m having trouble understanding the use of の with the と particle in this specific example.「あちゃんとの握手会に行こう！」 I don’t understand how の is used here since 握手会 does not describe any possession of the group but an action to perform. It feels like it’s あちゃん’s and yours 握手会, not someone else’s. The description of the grammar point says it connects A and B, but I don’t see how they’re more connected than just 「あちゃんと握手会に行こう！」

  • nekoyama

    nekoyama

    The English translation is ambiguous here. It could mean either of these two:

    1. You and your friend A-chan go to a handshake event together.
    2. You go to a handshake event, where you can shake hands with a celebrity called A-chan.

    The Japanese text is not ambiguous. An あちゃんとの握手会 is a handshake event where you can shake hands with someone called A-chan, because the の makes the part before it describe the 握手会. Without the の, this would not be the case.

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