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N3 Lesson 2: 1/22

(Particle) + のCombined particles

Structure

Noun + Particle(1) + の + Noun

(1) から、と、へ、で、まで

Details

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About Particle + の

In Japanese, many particles are often grouped together with the case marking particle の. The primary function of this is to form a link between noun (A), and noun (B). In each of these cases, noun (B) will be considered to have all of the qualities described by noun (A), and the first particle that follows it.

The particle that comes before の will always be something that adds some form of immediate information about noun (A). The most common ones are as follows:

Noun (A) から の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'from' (A).

Noun (A) と の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'grouped with' (A).

Noun (A) へ の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'toward' (A).

Noun (A) で の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'done with' (A).

Noun (A) まで の Noun (B) - The (B) that is 'until' (A).

Caution

Because noun (A) is describing noun (B), noun (B) will be considered as the subject of the statement. Due to this, particles that usually mark subjects, topics, or objects of actions cannot be paired directly with の. This includes に, も, は, が, and を.

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Examples

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  • あちゃんとの握手会(あくしゅかい)に行(い)こう！

    Let's go to the handshake event with A-chan! (A-chan's event)

  • これまでの話(はなし)はなかなかおもしろい。

    The story so far is interesting.

  • 彼(かれ)は癌(がん)との戦(たたか)いに勝(か)ったそうだ。

    I heard that he won the battle with cancer.

  • なぎさんは、はやてさんへの手紙(てがみ)をずっと書(か)いている。

    Nagi constantly writes letters to Hayate.

  • サマーキャンプでの生活(せいかつ)はとても楽(たの)しいですよ！

    Life at summer camp is very fun.

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Particle + の – Grammar Discussion

Most Recent Replies (12 in total)

  • RadicalC

    RadicalC

    Was wondering, is it weird to use Verb-modified Nouns?
    It’s just that if feels overloaded so im asking. TY

    彼女との見た映画
    Movies I’ve seen with my GF

    クレジットカードでの買ったもの。
    Things i’ve bought with my CC

    このレストランでの食べた食
    Foods I’ve eaten/ordered at/from this Restaurant.

    日本からの遊んだゲーム。
    Japanese games I’ve played
    games from Japanese I’ve played

  • loofaspoof

    loofaspoof

    Your first two examples look incorrect to me since I would expect each side of the の to be distinct clauses whereas instead you’re splitting a single verb phrase. For example comparing the first one:

    [彼女と見た]映画
    Movies [I’ve seen with my GF]

    [彼女と]の[見た映画]
    [With my girlfriend]'s [movies I’ve seen]
    Movies I’ve watched with my girlfriend [in them] (“with my girlfriend” modifies the movie itself instead of how you watched them)

    The third sentence seems to work either way with the slight nuance of whether このレストランで acts as an adjective for 食 or an adverb for 食べた. The fourth sentence only works as you’ve written though in my opinion:

    [日本から]の[遊んだゲーム]
    [From Japan]'s [games I’ve played]
    Games from Japan I’ve played

    Without の, 日本から no longer acts as an adjective modifying ゲーム and so I’d be more inclined to read it as “since [the time I was in] Japan” instead. Although I’d probably expect this idea to be more simply written instead as:

    ...

  • darzington

    darzington

    For this test sentence:

    これまでの話はなかなかおもしろい

    Is there a different way of phrasing “これまでの話” ?
    How would the meaning change without ‘の’ (or why would that be incorrect)?
    Thanks!

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