Grammar Info

N2 Lesson 6: 5/20

抜(ぬ)きでWithout, Unless

抜きでは can be contracted to 抜きじゃ.

Structure

Noun + 抜(ぬ)きで(は)
Noun + 抜(ぬ)きに(は)
Noun + を + 抜(ぬ)きにして(は)
Noun + は + 抜(ぬ)きとして(は)
Noun + 抜(ぬ)き + の + Noun

Details

  • Standard

About 抜きで

抜(ぬ)きで, a combination of the noun form of the う-Verb 抜(ぬ)く 'to extract', and the particle で, is a construction that usually indicates something being done 'without (A)', or 'with the removal of (A)'. As ぬき indicates the extraction of something, this grammar pattern is primarily used to indicate 'leaving out', or 'setting aside' something that is regularly included.

抜(ぬ)きで acts as a suffix, so will be utilized after nouns, to indicate the thing that is being left out. Both the plain hiragana and kanji forms are fairly common. Additionally, の will replace で when ぬき is followed directly by another noun.

Occasionally, にして may also replace で, but this structure is more common when the part (B) section of the sentence includes a ない or できない based statement. These expressions indicate that something 'will not happen without (A)', or 'is not possible without (A)'.

However; this is not always the case, as ぬきで or ぬきでは may also appear in negative sentences, with the same meaning.

Synonyms



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Examples

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  • リスク抜(ぬ)きには決(けっ)してフグを食(た)べられない。

    You can never eat fugu without risk.

  • 「クソ、渋滞(じゅうたい)だ。あいつら、パーティーをオレ抜(ぬ)きで始(はじ)めそうだ。」

    'Damn, a traffic jam. It seems that they will start the party without me.'

  • 「食(た)べれる」のような「ら」抜(ぬ)きの言葉(ことば)は人気(にんき)になっている。

    Words without 'ら', like '食べれる' are getting more popular.

  • C(シー):「A(エー)とB(ビー)は付(つ)き合(あ)ってんのよ」D(ディー):「マジ!?冗談(じょうだん)抜(ぬ)きで?」

    C: 'A and B are dating!' D: 'Whaa? No kidding? (without joking)'

  • 夫婦(ふうふ)の会話(かいわ):「子供(こども)抜(ぬ)きでどこか面白(おもしろ)いところに行(い)こう!」

    A conversation between a married couple: 'Let's go somewhere fun, without the children!'

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抜きで – Grammar Discussion

Most Recent Replies (7 in total)

  • okayfrog

    okayfrog

    私()にとってコーラぬきでハンバーガーを食()べることは考()えられない

    why is 抜()きの considered wrong here? In “Structure” it says to use 抜()きの before a noun.

  • zconnor

    zconnor

    Using 抜きで implies that the prior thing is removed from the following action, i.e., the action of eating a hamburger, without having cola. Using 抜きの would imply removing the prior thing from the directly following noun, i.e., removing cola from the hamburger, which doesn’t make sense.

  • okayfrog

    okayfrog

    That makes sense to me. I’m more having an issue with the fact that it says this in the “About” section:

    Additionally, の will replace で when ぬき is followed directly by another noun.

    In the example I posted, ぬき is followed directly by another noun, yet の would not make sense here. So in that case, の will not replace で despite the fact that it’s saying there that it should.

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