になる・くなるTo become (Adjective)

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  Jake

  to become

  Structure

  • なAdjective + になる
  • いAdjective + くなる

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  Marcus

  I think this is my first ever post on the BP forums (after thousands over at WK!), so hello to everyone (anyone?) reading!

  I start with a question! (One of many I fear as my Japanese, despite all my best efforts, is awful)!

  Regarding “didn’t become quiet”… I get this one wrong again and again! I only got it right this time as it was the last in my queue and I repeated it a dozen times first.

  I know it is “quiet”, しずか, plus になる (に because しずか is a na-adjective), and then the なる has to go into past tense negative - ならなかった.

  It should be simple, but I keep putting しずかになかった! And tips on getting this straight? Where does that extra な and か come from?!

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  mrnoone

  Welcome on community forums

  Glad to see a new face

  Not a problem, ask as many questions as you want, this is the purpose of this forum!

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  Marcus

  It certainly does help! A wonderfully clear explanation! Thank you so much! Much appreciated!

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  mrnoone

  No problemo

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  Aythreuk

  I’m afraid I don’t understand this one.
  Why doesn’t it become いくなる？

  I feel bad “reviving this old topic,” but this seems like the most relevant place to post my question.

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  s1212z

  いい has special adjective rules that just need to be memorized but conjugates like an i-adjective

  Unless grammar is going out of style, its all relevant I really like how all the questions are organized under grammar points and can easily be read for future users (as long as users search their question before creating new topics that already exist). WK has struggled with this, new topics keep getting posted on the same questions from new users.

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  Aythreuk

  Thank you, you have cleared that up for me.
  Before posting I did try to do my due diligence. I searched “ii” on jisho.org and “yoi” was the first thing to pop up, but for whatever reason I still couldn’t figure it out.

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  mrnoone

  @Aythreuk @s1212z

  I have added information about the exception to the grammar point itself!

  Thank you for your feedback

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  kanelbullar

  I don’t understand the following as an answer for “It didn’t become quiet.”

  しずかにならなかった

  Why is it なら instead of なる? There’s nothing explaining this change on either grammar page. I’m so confused.

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  Pushindawood

  @kanelbullar Hey! The structure of this grammar point is な-Adjective + になる い-Adjective + くなる where なる is a verb meaning “to become.” Therefore, しずかになる means “to become quiet.” なる is a godan verb, so the negative (ならない) + past (かった) would be ならなかった. Since this sentence is not “It will become quiet,” but “It didn’t become quiet,” the negative past conjugation of なる is used. Hope this helps! Cheers.

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  Redglare

  Hello. I keep coming back to this grammar point and wonder why it doesn’t say anything about nouns. Are there any another grammar point that covers noun + になる? If not, wouldn’t it be better to add nouns (and example sentences) to this grammar point?

  Example: 会社員になる

  I had to look it up in Genki I to make sure I wasn’t going crazy xD

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  mrnoone

  Hey

  We are most likely going to add Noun + になる as separate gramamr point. It is on the to do list.

  Cheers!

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  Evueimeimei

  I suppose this is more of an English problem than a Japanese problem, and I suppose it sounds odd coming from a native English speaker, but I’m having a lot of trouble with this grammar point simply because I’m having issues telling when it should be present versus past tense.

  Could anyone go through the tenses of to become with me in both English and Japanese?

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  Pushindawood

  @Evueimeimei Hey! I have updated the review questions for this grammar point to include hints about tense. Hopefully this will make the answer more clear. Below is a list of tenses of “to become” in both English and Japanese. Cheers!

  Tense	Affirmative	Negative	Affirmative	Negative
  Non-past	To become/will become	To not become/will not become	なる	ならない
  Non-past, polite	“”	“”	なります	なりません
  Past	Became	Did not become	なった	ならなかった
  Past, polite	“”	“”	なりました	なりませんでした

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  Evueimeimei

  Thank you! That helps a lot.

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  artmales

  冬に夜５時から暗くなります.

  In the winter, it becomes dark after five p.m.

  What is “夜” (night) doing in this sentence? Why do not just say it this way:

  冬に５時から暗くなります.

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  matt_in_mito

  In this instance, 夜 means p.m.
  You can also say 午後 if you want but I don’t generally hear that in day-to-day life.
  5時 would generally mean 5a.m. So many people also say 17時

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  artmales

  Thank you very much, I only seen the 午後 version before

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  koko191

  I thought of this while keeping conjugating 静かにならなかった incorrectly:
  静かにならなかった means “did not become quiet”
  then what would “became not quiet” is?