Structure
Verb + 点(で)
［い］Adjective + 点(で)
［な］Adjective + な + 点(で)
Noun + の + 点(で)
Phrase + という + 点(で)
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About 点
点 is a kanji that is regularly used to express a specific 'point', 'spot', 'aspect', or something similar. When attached to the end of the attributive form of another word, it will highlight that word as a point of interest within the sentence. This is regularly translated as 'from the aspect of (A)', 'in respect to (A)', 'in terms of (A)', and other similar phrases that simply draw attention to something.
To use 点, attach it to the attributive form of another word, a noun followed by の, or a phrase followed by という. In many cases, 点 will be followed by the case marking particle で, but other particles may be used depending whether 点 is being conveyed as a subject, object, destination, or something being utilized.
Sometimes, で (as 'with' or 'at') may be replaced with expressions such as について 'in relation to (A)', or からいうと 'speaking from (A)'. So long as the grammar structure that accompanies 点 is also used to highlight something specific (and can be paired with a noun), it will sound natural.
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この点でそのスマホの方がいいですよ。
In this respect, that smartphone is better.
英語はあらゆる点で日本語と違っている。
English differs from Japanese in all respects. (all points)
何らかのアクションが必要であるという点を総株主は認めた。
All shareholders agreed on the point that some action is needed.
いくつかの点で韓国語やトルコ語は日本語に似ている。
In some respects, Korean and Turkish are similar to Japanese.
彼はちょっと忘れっぽいという点で彼の父と同じだね。
In terms of being a bit forgetful he is just like his father, right?
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点 – Grammar Discussion
Most Recent Replies (10 in total)
The111
日本語は、文章の最後のポジションに動詞があるという点で、ユニークである。
That is one of the example sentences. My issue is not with the grammar, but with the content of the sentence. I believe it’s inaccurate. IIUC, languages with SOV order are actually the most common.
CGTespy
In the example sentence for this:
“In terms of being able to shoot explosive magic, Megumin won’t lose to anyone.”
I entered てんで and it was marked wrong while というてんで、てんについて and てんからいうと were listed as valid answers. This despite the writeup saying that the format for using てん after verbs is simply adding てんで after said verbs. I know it mentions that the で can be replaced with stuff like について, but it didn’t explain when で would be straight-up wrong. Dunno if this is a bug, but I felt this contradiction was worth mentioning.
ka5
The opening post of this topic explains the difference in more specifics than the article does:
[という usually follows longer clauses but does not follow: いくつか、あらゆる、この、その、すべての、このほかの、etc.]
[という also does not follow if the “点” is directly modified like “細かい点” - fine aspect. という must follow direct quotations (quotations that end with ending particles like ね、わ、etc.)]It’s kind of strange that this information is not in the main article.
In my limited understanding, with short clauses like this, it’s just a matter of perception if you can treat it as a “verb” and omit という, or have to treat it as a “phrase” and include という.
It would indeed seem inconsistent to mark てんで wrong, but てんについて correct.