Grammar Info

N4 Lesson 5: 11/20

(なか)

In, Among, Within

Structure

Noun + + (なか)
その(1) + (なか)

(1) この

Details

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About のなかで

Just like the grammar point (なか)で~が一番(いちばん), this grammar point may be used when marking one thing from within a group, and then further describing it. The only difference is that (なか) by itself simply marks something as being 'among (A)', or 'within (A)', rather than being the 'most (A)'.
  • ラーメン(なか)味噌(みそ)ラーメン()
    Among ramen, I like the miso type.
  • このバンド(なか)(だれ)()
    Who do you like in this band?
(なか) is also frequently used to describe things that are happening within a place, and will translate simply as 'in (A)', in these cases.
  • (くるま)(なか)夕食(ゆうしょく)()ました
    I ate dinner in my car.

Examples

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  • この(みっ)(なか)(あか)(いろ)()

    Among these three, I like the red one.

    • フルーツ(なか)、イチゴとかパイン()

      Among all fruits, I like strawberries and pineapple.

      • ひらがなカタカナ漢字(かんじ)(なか)、ひらがなしか()けない

        Among hiragana, katakana, and kanji, I can only write hiragana.

        • (なか)(ひと)(えら)でください

          Please choose one from among these.

          • 公園(こうえん)(なか)子供(こども)(たち)(あそ)んでいた

            The children were playing in the park. (Within)

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            のなかで – Grammar Discussion

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            • ljoekelsoey

              ljoekelsoey

              Don’t think there’s nothing wrong with this, but I think the nuance is ever so slightly different perhaps? I’m not sure if its on bunpro or not though @mrnoone ?

            • Tulip

              Tulip

              How does the use of のなかで to mean ‘in’ differ from the use of に to mean ‘in’? I assume there are differences in nuance, even if both translate to the same English word, but initial attempts at Googling aren’t yielding anything useful; they’re instead getting me comparisons between のなかで and のなかに, which, while plausibly worth learning too, don’t address my current confusion.

              For example, in the example sentence 公園のなかで子供達が遊んでいた, what difference is there in its meaning as compared with that of the as-far-as-I-can-tell-still-grammatical sentence 公園に子供達が遊んでいた?

            • mrnoone

              mrnoone

              Hey @Tulip and welcome to the community forums!

              公園に子供達が遊んでいた is not correct, you should use で in this sentence.

              What you really want to know is the difference between particles に and で.

              Particle に is used with a range of verbs that indicate the existence or remaining in someplace like いる、ある、住む、隠れる、とどまる、立つ、座る.
              Location towards one moves with verbs like いく、くる、帰る.
              (There are of course other uses like indicating the indirect object of an action (give something TO SOMEONE 彼にあげる), the purpose of movement (to go SHOPPING 買い物に行く) and so on)

              で on the other hand indicates location (except the location of existence - so all the verbs I mentioned that are used with に are in certain way exceptions), therefore it covers many more verbs like 遊ぶ (子供は公園で遊んでいた)、 バイクショップで働いている、教会で歌う. (o...

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