それにAnd, Besides, Moreover, In addition

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  Pushindawood

  and・besides
  moreover・in addition

  Structure

  • それに + Additional facts or information

  [Sentences using それに must have either positive or negative connotations but never both・casual speech]

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  ulurujamman

  Is there a difference between それに and さらに?

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  Ambo100

  I was also curious, this is what I was able to find:

  それに The first clause and the second clause are independent and there is no emotional or judgement in the sentence. It’s casually used and spoken.
  Exmaples:
  この雑誌は読みやすく、それに写真もきれいだ。
  This magazine is easy to read and has pretty pictures.

  更に (さらに) indicates the situation changes into the next level.
  Examples:
  風が更に強くなった。
  The wind becomes strong. (It was a gentle breeze however, there is a strong wind.)
  更にこの会社発展することを期待する。
  I expect this company will develop more.

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  Superpnut

  Can someone help me out with this. I just can’t figure out when it is それに or それで. Is there just a trick to this? To me they seem so similar that I might as well just flip a coin, but then still get it wrong 9 out of 10 times. Really could use a hand on this.
  And my confusion mainly stems from the fact that they just seem to be different flavours of “and”

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  okayfrog

  wish there was somewhere in the Details that explained the difference between それに and それで.

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  eclipse77x

  I don’t know how correct this is… but ChatGPT said:

  Certainly! Here is a detailed explanation of the differences between それに (sore ni), それと (sore to), それから (sore kara), and それで (sore de):

  それに (sore ni)

  Meaning: “In addition,” “furthermore,” “moreover.”

  Usage: Used to add extra information or to emphasize an additional point.

  Example:

  • このレストランは料理が美味しい。それに、サービスもいいです。
    • Translation: This restaurant has delicious food. In addition, the service is also good.

  それと (sore to)

  Meaning: “And,” “and also.”

  Usage: Used to connect two separate pieces of information or items, often in a listing context.

  Example:

  • 私はりんごそれとバナナを買いました。
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  steffuld

  This is interesting, because in Ukrainian you’d say ‘до того ж’ (‘do toho ž’), which literally means ‘to that same’ and uses the preposition ‘до’ (‘do’) that indicates destination similar to ‘to’ in English and に in Japanese, as well as the pronoun ‘той’ (‘toj’) that corresponds to ‘that’ in English and to それ in Japanese. Nice to have such similarities across languages!