からしてEven..., Judging from, Based on

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  Pushindawood

  judging from
  based on

  Structure

  • Noun + からして

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  Angel

  Not sure if I’m entirely right or not, but からして seems to be used when making a judgment vs をもとに which seems to be more used towards making a conclusion.

  If there is a bigger or different difference between them what is it? And don’t you think you should keep this cue in brackets [] as judging from rather than based on so as to not mix them up? Or are they interchangeable?

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  Angel

  bump.

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  Melanthe

  I think you have smushed two distinct grammar points together:

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  Asher

  Interesting insight @Melanthe ! As we’re going through doing all the proper explanations for N2 grammar, we’re using a variety of different resources. Of these, 絵でわかる日本語 is one if them, as we tend to favor sources written by native speakers.

  Whether we split something into 2 or more separate grammar points depends mostly on whether the majority of other resources do the same, and if we ourselves can find some commonality between all meanings that warrant making just one grammar point, and pointing out the difference there. This is, as you might imagine, tough at times.

  The primary resource we use (for higher levels) is くらべてわかる日本語表現文型辞典 (available on Amazon as an eBook, or paperback), which lists からして as a single grammar point with a few slightly different nuances. We have not decided what to do with this grammar construction as of now, but when we get to it, I will absolutely take your feedback into consideration when making ex...

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  Melanthe

  Thanks! It’s definitely tricky, because I imagine there is a risk that too many of ‘the same entries’ will clog up the search results and make it harder to find what you’re looking for. But when you don’t separate them, you run the risk of adding lots of example sentences for the one usage and hardly any for the second. I’m seeing the same with the entry for 〜を通じて (which 絵でわかる, SKM and that grammar pattern handbook all split into two discrete grammar points): lots of example sentences for the ‘proxy’ usage, but only one for the ‘time span’ usage.

  I’d personally have a preference for splitting them out (like you’ve already done for grammar points like らしい and 一応), because it makes it very clear that they can be (and often are) conceived of as separate usages with (often) separate 使い方 and different ...