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N3 Lesson 5: 10/22

にしては(Even) considering, (Even) for

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Verb + にしては
Noun + にしては

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About にしては

Like として, にして highlights an aspect of something from which another thing happens. The primary difference being that と implies that (B) results from (A), while に implies that (B) happens/exists at the same time as (A). This reflects the case marking particle に's use as a location. The adverbial particle は presents the entire (A) phrase as something that will be compared.

にしては is regularly translated as 'considering (A), (B)', or 'even for (A), (B)', and may be used with both verbs and nouns. Like として, にして is often considered as a stand-alone adverbial particle, despite stemming from several parts.

Despite the 'considering (A), (B)' translation, にしては is closer in meaning to 'while (A), (B)'. This expresses that (A) and (B) share a simultaneous relation, but also that (B) is not necessarily a result of (A) at all.

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Examples

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    子供(こども)にしては静(しず)かな方(ほう)だ。

    Considering (she) is a child, (she) is a quiet one.

    力士(りきし)にしては結構(けっこう)細(ほそ)いですね。

    Considering he is a sumo wrestler, he is quite thin.

    猫(ねこ)にしては大(おお)きすぎませんか？

    (Even) for a cat, isn't it too big?

    うどんにしては随分(ずいぶん)細(ほそ)い麺(めん)だな。

    Considering it's udon, these noodles are quite thin.

    昔話(むかしばなし)にしては、随分(ずいぶん)現実(げんじつ)的(てき)な話(はなし)ですね。

    (Even) considering it is an old folk tale, it is quite a realistic story.

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      にしては – Grammar Discussion

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      • mrnoone

        mrnoone

        @Johnathan-Weir
        I have updated the link!

        Thank you!

      • HotAirGun

        HotAirGun

        I’m kinda confused by this example sentence:

        （彼女は）政治家にしてはかなり若いから、少し不安ですね。
        Considering (she) is a politician, (she) is quite young, so I am a bit anxious.

        Why in the last part the doer is “I”, not “she”? It depends on the context, or maybe there is some rule I don’t know?
        If there is a sentence like

        Considering she is a politician, she is quite young, so she is a bit anxious

        how it would look like in Japanese?

      • Daru

        Daru

        Because it’s being read from a given speakers’ viewpoint. You’re stating that because she’s young, that’s giving you anxiety.

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